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2024 Guinness Six Nations
2014 6 Nations: England vs Wales (Round 4)
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<blockquote data-quote="St George" data-source="post: 628586" data-attributes="member: 69634"><p>Good to see St George extinguish the Dragons fire. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Can't see why an England v Wales 6N match thread should have continuous discussions on 7's....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>On May & Nowell, i agree with both sides of the arguement in that although they have not been to bad, they havent exactly set the place alight either. I hope that we can see some game time for others like Yarde, Wade & Watson before the next 6N in time for the WC. Both incumbents have shown they are not fazed by the step up, and they both need to take this experience into their domestic game and improve their alround skills. </p><p></p><p>Burrell has been superb IMO and I hope he doesnt get dropped for Manu. I personally think that Burrell & Manu could be an outstanding Centre partnership finally for England. 36 is another who hasnt done much wrong so far, although he has made mistakes, he seems to be showing progress and improvement in the role. </p><p></p><p>Would agree that Parling may struggle to return, and i too would keep the Lock personnel just as they are. </p><p></p><p>I think the 6N ***le would be a bonus at this stage, and i'm not too bothered if Ireland take it as they have played well throughout. For me, the reversal on Wales to end their mini-run was essential, and to also go to Murryfield and show that all that Braveheart crap is pointless was a joy to watch. Next, to be able to go to Rome and not just win, but with abundance and not a hint of lucky England. But i think this Englands mindset is different from the past two years. Last year we saw a good result against Scotland followed by another away in Dublin, and everyone in white was talking world-beaters after the preceding win against the ABs. Then the slowdown and abject winning displays against France & Italy before the thrashing in Cardiff. IMO the Welsh did us a favour that day and it was indeed a painful bump to earth. This year has been a totally different set of results 7 more importantly, performances, with a good display in defeat followed by 3 wins with improvement in each. Italy should be afraid....very afraid, IMO. Fingers crossed of course.</p><p></p><p>Now comes the whinge....</p><p>All week i have read about how the Welsh Lions (12 or 1200 ) should have the nous and ability to beat the almost Lionless English, but there was a few things that kept springing to mind. 1st..the teams that beat the Ozzies had a reasonable amount of Irish & English in them to warrant some credit for the series win. But the more telling stat is that in the AI's, the formidable Welsh Lions became fireless Dragons again, whilst the inferiour Lionless English actually beat the Ozzies on their own. IMO to much is made of the Lions makeup squads in reference to their individual nations, as it really is a miracle sometimes that this scratch barbarians type squad can win at all. Great to watch and i will be a Lions fan forever, but nothing should be taken to seriously in context to the national sides.</p><p></p><p>Looking forward to the early start next week, as these late ones are killing me. Just had a hernia op recently, so hopefully be able to have a few beers after Rome instead of just going to bed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="St George, post: 628586, member: 69634"] Good to see St George extinguish the Dragons fire. :D Can't see why an England v Wales 6N match thread should have continuous discussions on 7's....:rolleyes: On May & Nowell, i agree with both sides of the arguement in that although they have not been to bad, they havent exactly set the place alight either. I hope that we can see some game time for others like Yarde, Wade & Watson before the next 6N in time for the WC. Both incumbents have shown they are not fazed by the step up, and they both need to take this experience into their domestic game and improve their alround skills. Burrell has been superb IMO and I hope he doesnt get dropped for Manu. I personally think that Burrell & Manu could be an outstanding Centre partnership finally for England. 36 is another who hasnt done much wrong so far, although he has made mistakes, he seems to be showing progress and improvement in the role. Would agree that Parling may struggle to return, and i too would keep the Lock personnel just as they are. I think the 6N ***le would be a bonus at this stage, and i'm not too bothered if Ireland take it as they have played well throughout. For me, the reversal on Wales to end their mini-run was essential, and to also go to Murryfield and show that all that Braveheart crap is pointless was a joy to watch. Next, to be able to go to Rome and not just win, but with abundance and not a hint of lucky England. But i think this Englands mindset is different from the past two years. Last year we saw a good result against Scotland followed by another away in Dublin, and everyone in white was talking world-beaters after the preceding win against the ABs. Then the slowdown and abject winning displays against France & Italy before the thrashing in Cardiff. IMO the Welsh did us a favour that day and it was indeed a painful bump to earth. This year has been a totally different set of results 7 more importantly, performances, with a good display in defeat followed by 3 wins with improvement in each. Italy should be afraid....very afraid, IMO. Fingers crossed of course. Now comes the whinge.... All week i have read about how the Welsh Lions (12 or 1200 ) should have the nous and ability to beat the almost Lionless English, but there was a few things that kept springing to mind. 1st..the teams that beat the Ozzies had a reasonable amount of Irish & English in them to warrant some credit for the series win. But the more telling stat is that in the AI's, the formidable Welsh Lions became fireless Dragons again, whilst the inferiour Lionless English actually beat the Ozzies on their own. IMO to much is made of the Lions makeup squads in reference to their individual nations, as it really is a miracle sometimes that this scratch barbarians type squad can win at all. Great to watch and i will be a Lions fan forever, but nothing should be taken to seriously in context to the national sides. Looking forward to the early start next week, as these late ones are killing me. Just had a hernia op recently, so hopefully be able to have a few beers after Rome instead of just going to bed. [/QUOTE]
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