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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 628503" data-attributes="member: 12190">I agree with all of this.Warren G is a good coach but his bed will be made in the next couple of Wales games(by himself). Every coach out there has his favorites and sticks for too long with given players or a set way of playing, but most coaches eventually make the changes the hcore fans have been calling for. Look at England; we've gradually shed the players we didn't want, such as Botha, Stevens, Ashton, and I have no doubt that Goode will follow when the time is right(That's now, by the way). I know with Wales its a bit different but its still the principles of having favourites in the first place and the general conviction on Gatlands part that his game plan will be good enough if applied correctly. The worry would be that Gats will put this result down to simply execution, like after the Ireland game.After this game, If I were Welsh, my biggest worry would be if Gatland sees Webbs poor showing as proof that Philips is integral to Wales' game plan. Wales need more time without that physicality at 9 to get used to playing without it. I don't think Gats is an idiot though and I'm 90% sure Biggar well start against Wales. I think the general ambiguity around what was going to at scrum time and his general form this tourny will be enough for Gethin J to keep his place. Literally no idea if Webb will keep his place but for Wales' sake I hope so. On the other hand, if Gatland stays with the view that Warrenball works when properly executed, he'd by extension have to stick with Webb, or else be called the biggest hypocrite of all time. In Gatlands defence, lots of what was wrong for Wales was inability to hold onto the ball; they lost it forward a lot and not all of that can be put to Englands defence. What to say about Poite:It was good to see him have a stab at refereeing the breakdown rather than simply fixating on the offside line, but there were at least 3 occasion when I felt he made a wrong call.Davies, Farrell and I think Jenkins(?) each had an occasion where in going to compete for the ball they flopped first of all onto the ruck, before eventually supporting their on body weight. Not quick enough. Referees like Owens or Joubert would have penalised the other way round on those occasions. Other decisions: though I dislike Liam Williams, I don't really think it should have been a penalty against him towards the end. I also thought England got away with it when Nowell took out Halfpenny in the air, but thats easier to say when you've just won the game. As regards the makeup of the lions and @ Feicarsinn I'm 50/50. I think that certain English guys were hard done by such as Robshaw but many of the faults are Lancasters not Gatlands; e.g  no way should brown have gone because his performances on the wing were not good enough. Also Robshaws chances were dented by being played as a 7. On the other hand, I do think many of our guys are underrated generally. The welsh guys on this forum don't seem to think this way, but a couple of people on other forums such as rugby rebels said before the game that not a single England player would make the wales 15. That's just a bit cyclopic if I may say so.Delighted with the triple crown; hope we treat Italy seriously next week and first and foremost try and just win the game. If france do us a favour, fair play but without that we can't realistically win, so no point chasing the game too early.</blockquote>

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