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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 591384" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Can't agree with this part. The Scarlets came 4th last season, and lost every single game in Europe, two wide beatings by Clermont, and then two defeats to a middling Premiership side. The other semi finalist Glasgow have hardly achieved much in Europe either. A mid table Pro12 side Cardiff Blues looked on a par with the Sale at the bottom of the Premiership in their pool. And all those play the tournament with their full teams, the Pro12 sides are weaker. I doubt the Munster or Ospreys teams on display this weekend would have much chance against the Premership teams in equivalent teams in similar positions.</p><p></p><p>And that's the top of the league, at the bottom of the league, Zebre and Dragons would both be relegated out of the other leagues, Connacht, Edinburgh and Cardiff Blues would also be languishing near the bottom as well in my opinion. That's nearly half the league which is the standard of a 10-12th Premiership or 11-14th Top 14 side. The fact that the god awful Dragons side can even occasionally ambush a weakened good side doesn't say much for the standard either. Just as a reflection of the Dragons standard, in their last HCup run between 2007-2011 they won 2 matches from 24 both against Glasgow, since going down to the Amlin they've won 1 in 8 games against the T14/AP opposition, including being doubled by a Bayonne reserves team. There's a greater percentage of poor sides in the league, and the good sides get disproportionately effected by internationals as they provide so many of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 591384, member: 48703"] Can't agree with this part. The Scarlets came 4th last season, and lost every single game in Europe, two wide beatings by Clermont, and then two defeats to a middling Premiership side. The other semi finalist Glasgow have hardly achieved much in Europe either. A mid table Pro12 side Cardiff Blues looked on a par with the Sale at the bottom of the Premiership in their pool. And all those play the tournament with their full teams, the Pro12 sides are weaker. I doubt the Munster or Ospreys teams on display this weekend would have much chance against the Premership teams in equivalent teams in similar positions. And that's the top of the league, at the bottom of the league, Zebre and Dragons would both be relegated out of the other leagues, Connacht, Edinburgh and Cardiff Blues would also be languishing near the bottom as well in my opinion. That's nearly half the league which is the standard of a 10-12th Premiership or 11-14th Top 14 side. The fact that the god awful Dragons side can even occasionally ambush a weakened good side doesn't say much for the standard either. Just as a reflection of the Dragons standard, in their last HCup run between 2007-2011 they won 2 matches from 24 both against Glasgow, since going down to the Amlin they've won 1 in 8 games against the T14/AP opposition, including being doubled by a Bayonne reserves team. There's a greater percentage of poor sides in the league, and the good sides get disproportionately effected by internationals as they provide so many of them. [/QUOTE]
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