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Yea agree. Likewise Nonu at 12. I think the angle is players who, in their opinion, had the most impact at SR level specifically but even then, Savea over Lomu still feels weird. I'd have Olo Brown easily over Kepu as well.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/moana-pasifika-super-rugby-all-time-xv/RHQJMTT5IFB6TKFKYPNEB2V5RE/ Pretty cool exercise, some interesting selections though

Yea this thread alone probably works 👍 On the Landers... really looking forward to seeing how Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens goes. Barely got a crack at the Blues which always felt like a waste. Glad he moved on and has an opportunity now.

Yea likewise. I think by re-signing him NZR/Robertson made their intentions clear i.e. he would remain in the picture but as much as I love the guy, even his biggest supporters have to admit we haven't seen prime Beaudy for a while. Sullivan looks like he'll get first crack at 15 for the...

Will Jordan out for the SR season. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-all-black-and-crusaders-back-will-jordan-out-for-season/EEGKN4PWURGI5H53CY6FFIUGWM/ Anyone know where his shoulder problem stems from? I didn't follow the trials. Guess this means Beaudy will get another...

Ah yep fair enough. I do agree that sort of self funding model would be ideal. But again, I dunno if it'll ever be achievable in NZ and I do think the economic limitations are real. And I dont think Prem's a good example of a sustainable business model to be honest. After a number of clubs...

I actually think the trickle down economy is just a function of the size of our overall economy and I dunno if we'll ever get past it. If a bottom up model is one where the domestic game generates the bulk of NZRs revenue, then revenue sources are (by and large) limited to the domestic scene...

Good to know there's at least one person stateside excited 😝 But in all seriousness.... while its obviously great for rugby supporters in the area and will hopefully be well attended, I cant help but see this as just a money making exercise at the behest of Silver Lake. Playing in Suva...

'87 WC for me, and JK's length of the field try against the Italians. I remember watching a few AB tests with my old man before that, but the first WC set the bug. And on another note, the 05 Lions tour was probably the zenith of my love for the game. I was so invested in that series I...

Judging by his comments since being confirmed, he appears to have a fix-it agenda. Get them off the canvas and into some sort of shape to compete against the Lions, and then hopefully hand over to an Aussie coach at the end of his term before their home WC. In that context, I think he's a...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350151560/ex-all-blacks-assistant-joe-schmidt-set-replace-eddie-jones-wallabies-coach I knew he was one of many being linked to the gig, but I honestly didn't expect it to happen. Interesting times ahead...

I know this has probably been discussed lots already in the past, but given Robertson's most recent comments… what's everyone's view on whether AB selection should be opened up to offshore based players?

Robertson adds more Sader flavour to his coaching/management team... https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301030745/crusaders-assistant-tamati-ellison-joins-razors-all-blacks-staff I didn't realise there was such a big group involved either... 20 + Smithy in his broader performance...

Yea good point. Just adds another level of weirdness to the whole thing doesn't it. Maybe there's exit clauses in the contract, something that allows Beaudy to head back offshore, and NZR to save some money, if Robertson decides to go in another direction.

Yea its an odd one isnt it. Assuming Robertson is supportive of the idea (as we discussed earlier in the thread) he must see some value somewhere. But if he's the international coaching guru we all hope he is, I guess we'll just have to trust in his guru-ness. TBH I'm more concerned at what...

Nice summary👍 Agree Vaa'i should have inside running for Scott's partner. Ryan obviously likes him and I'd be surprised if Robertson gives Ryan's views any less weighting than Foster did given their history, and particularly amongst the tight five. But that could change if Vaa'i regresses...

Yea I agree.... Chiefs are front runners if McKenzie stays fit throughout. And also because they're not dealing with a brand new coach as well. That's almost as influential I reckon. As you say, Mounga aside, Saders look good on paper and if Scott Hansen had stayed on, I'd back em to keep on...

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/sport/sportable-rugby-ball-technology-forward-pass-spc-intl/index.html Probably the simplest explanation I've come across - but also highlights how impossible it is to judge without ball tracker tech. In my view what's exacerbated the debate - and...

I've got a slightly different view on this one… In a sporting context, I think of experience as more than just playing a lot of games, but someone who's been through difficult situations and critically, shown they've learnt how to overcome them. IMO, that sort of experience is worth...

Ha sorry mate didn't realise you were based across the ditch! But yes, it does feel like they're flogging a dead horse on this one. Agree Suncorp would be great as it always is, but really, anywhere in SYD/BRI makes more sense than Melb. If they're worried about 50-80k capacity stadiums...