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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dirty harry" data-source="post: 1176431" data-attributes="member: 86934">Crowd size has been good at Cardiff, they say 12k but there were empties in the usual places. Atmosphere though is still shockingly poor, too many grumbly old men whinging into their pints (like me) and little to no fan engagement from the club. It still bothers me that they arent interested in doing away fixture tours or anything, but then for 4.95 a coffee from a van dome players own what do you expect?Games have at least been competitive, the red card killed us Saturday, but ultimately it's a conservative game plan that's keeping the score down, we hold on, that and Young's try line turnovers lol we wont convert these types of close losses into wins, not until we can find ball carriers or ball players...</blockquote>