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<blockquote data-quote="General Melchett" data-source="post: 1183551" data-attributes="member: 74895">America is the main problem here IMO. They are as divided as I have ever seen and both sides are completely consumed with pleasing their domestic audience and winning votes at the next election. As a result they seem to be stepping back from their self proclaimed &#039;leader of the free world&#039; or alpha of the west role. Many republicans are pushing a narrative that supporting Ukraine means less money being spent domestically. They don&#039;t see Ukraine as their fight given it&#039;s so far away. Maybe they don&#039;t care if Putin expands his borders a bit. Backing Israel wins way more votes than backing Ukraine and I think that is what will determine which fights they choose to get involved in given the race to the Whitehouse is so tight. I think Europe has finally woken up to this and is realising that America can&#039;t be relied upon anymore hence the sudden push to spend more money on defence. It&#039;s not just Russian gas we need to wean ourselves off, it&#039;s American backed defence and security, especially when you&#039;ve got idiots like Trump encouraging Russia to attack any NATO member that doesn&#039;t pay their share. Perhaps NATO is a bit obsolete now. Perhaps we are seeing the start of a new world order.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="General Melchett, post: 1183551, member: 74895"] America is the main problem here IMO. They are as divided as I have ever seen and both sides are completely consumed with pleasing their domestic audience and winning votes at the next election. As a result they seem to be stepping back from their self proclaimed 'leader of the free world' or alpha of the west role. Many republicans are pushing a narrative that supporting Ukraine means less money being spent domestically. They don't see Ukraine as their fight given it's so far away. Maybe they don't care if Putin expands his borders a bit. Backing Israel wins way more votes than backing Ukraine and I think that is what will determine which fights they choose to get involved in given the race to the Whitehouse is so tight. I think Europe has finally woken up to this and is realising that America can't be relied upon anymore hence the sudden push to spend more money on defence. It's not just Russian gas we need to wean ourselves off, it's American backed defence and security, especially when you've got idiots like Trump encouraging Russia to attack any NATO member that doesn't pay their share. Perhaps NATO is a bit obsolete now. Perhaps we are seeing the start of a new world order. [/QUOTE]

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