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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1161721" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>I get the principle. To point to your example, my response would be that the media would be wrong (unless said team had inherent built in advantages). Which again ties in with my position on modern perceptions of France. </p><p></p><p>In WWI they held off a powerful aggressor whilst other nations completely messed up. </p><p></p><p>In WWII they shared a land border with the largest and most cutting edge motorised military force assembled at that point and got swiftly crushed, after the same force had just swiftly crushed Poland and before the same force crushed Yugoslavia. Sure they had Vietnam and Algeria, but any Imperial power has had their failed overseas adventures in the last 110 years. </p><p></p><p>So for the media, or anyone else, to pick out France as big military losers (or cowards) compared to the last 110 years of military performance (compared to a US, Russia/USSR, Italy etc) is not a position I can agree with. Then factor in no nation has won so many battles (and caused their opponents to surrender) in human history and I think its pretty clear that if a media wants to peddle things like 'freedom fries' (and cowardice) and people want to repeat that, then it reflects more poorly on those people than on France.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1161721, member: 74121"] I get the principle. To point to your example, my response would be that the media would be wrong (unless said team had inherent built in advantages). Which again ties in with my position on modern perceptions of France. In WWI they held off a powerful aggressor whilst other nations completely messed up. In WWII they shared a land border with the largest and most cutting edge motorised military force assembled at that point and got swiftly crushed, after the same force had just swiftly crushed Poland and before the same force crushed Yugoslavia. Sure they had Vietnam and Algeria, but any Imperial power has had their failed overseas adventures in the last 110 years. So for the media, or anyone else, to pick out France as big military losers (or cowards) compared to the last 110 years of military performance (compared to a US, Russia/USSR, Italy etc) is not a position I can agree with. Then factor in no nation has won so many battles (and caused their opponents to surrender) in human history and I think its pretty clear that if a media wants to peddle things like 'freedom fries' (and cowardice) and people want to repeat that, then it reflects more poorly on those people than on France. [/QUOTE]
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